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http://www.apple.com/macbook/Thoughts? It seems like a great computer, however i have a few questions. 1) Is it good for gaming, this new nvidia chipset looks promising, how will it handle source? 2) Are the mice available for these laptops decent 3) Same as #2 but printers 4) overall performance reviews?
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 10:08:56 PM » |
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1.) Since it has the new 9400M it should be fine with games.
2.) All USB mice are compatible, some gaming ones don't have
3.) Most printers are compatible.
4.) So far so good iirc.
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 12:45:12 AM » |
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't have firewire and almost everything apple uses firewire. Not sure what they were thinking when they made the new ones.
Someone can correct me on this if I'm wrong.
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Not that big of a deal if that doesn't bother you. Otherwise, I have used a few before - they are pretty good laptops. I still prefer a custom built lappy, but apple isn't half bad.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 01:39:25 AM » |
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I bought the 2.4 - upgraded the RAM to 4GB and the HD to a 7200 RPM Seagate. I like it a lot better than the MacBook Pro it replaced. The aluminum chassis is freaking awesome. I don't use anything Firewire so that doesn't bother me at all. I run Leopard and use VMWare Fusion to host virtual machines (XP, Linux distros) and the Unity feature lets me run Windows apps right from the dock. I use a BT mouse, but the new trackpad has right click support in the bottom right corner so it's not required gear like the older MB. It's the best lappy I've ever had and it's not close.
Hadn't even considered loading games on it to test the 9400. Fusion supports Windows 3D, so maybe I'll give that a shot.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 05:15:20 AM » |
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Laby you are wrong. Apple stopped using Firewire for everything about 2 years ago and moved to USB2 for everything.
Only thing that uses Firewire now is Digital Video Cameras... and many of those use USB 2.0 also.
Don't relay on the Macbook level for games. It may get you by with a lot of games, but if you think you'll be gaming a lot on it, get the Macbook Pro.. It has two Graphics cards, so I imagine at some point.. someone will figure out how to utilize them both for games...
Only time you'll need an external mouse is if you're gaming. Their trackpads are huge and touch sensitive. And while they still have a "click" feature, its much more practical to change the settings to receive tap and touch instructions. B@!!, you can enable right click on the trackpad through System Preferences so that anytime you tap with 2 fingers it is "right click".
B@!! your VMs won't run games at any real playable levels. If you want to test out games use Bootcamp, or you can run steam games through Codeweavers CrossOver (Wine Libraries). I get between 60 - 120 FPS in CS:S and TF2 depending on the map using CrossOver.
PS. I love Macs.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 07:36:19 AM » |
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Laby you are wrong. Apple stopped using Firewire for everything about 2 years ago and moved to USB2 for everything.
Only thing that uses Firewire now is Digital Video Cameras... and many of those use USB 2.0 also.
Don't relay on the Macbook level for games. It may get you by with a lot of games, but if you think you'll be gaming a lot on it, get the Macbook Pro.. It has two Graphics cards, so I imagine at some point.. someone will figure out how to utilize them both for games...
Only time you'll need an external mouse is if you're gaming. Their trackpads are huge and touch sensitive. And while they still have a "click" feature, its much more practical to change the settings to receive tap and touch instructions. B@!!, you can enable right click on the trackpad through System Preferences so that anytime you tap with 2 fingers it is "right click".
B@!! your VMs won't run games at any real playable levels. If you want to test out games use Bootcamp, or you can run steam games through Codeweavers CrossOver (Wine Libraries). I get between 60 - 120 FPS in CS:S and TF2 depending on the map using CrossOver.
PS. I love Macs.
Hm, it was my impression that even the 13 inch macbook with the new 9400rm could run Source fine. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 09:18:39 AM » |
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I'm not sure of the graphic cards capabilities so it may be able to run it fine if you boot into Windows via bootcamp.
I get 120+ FPS in Source all the time on my iMac when I boot into windows natively instead of running it through a VM or with win libraries.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 10:18:21 PM » |
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hm, is it weird gaming on the keyboard for your mac, in comparison to the standard PC keyboard?
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 10:47:48 PM » |
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hm, is it weird gaming on the keyboard for your mac, in comparison to the standard PC keyboard?
nope, there is no real difference except that the cntrl key is over one more.. and the "command" key is the Windows key. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 11:10:00 PM » |
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ummm well never gonna get a mac laptop if they don't have FireWire. Any recording device worth beans uses it becuase of the much lower latency for the devices
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 11:28:17 PM » |
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ummm well never gonna get a mac laptop if they don't have FireWire. Any recording device worth beans uses it becuase of the much lower latency for the devices
Yeah... That's my main beef with them. |
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 11:51:32 PM » |
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Only time you'll need an external mouse is if you're gaming. Their trackpads are huge and touch sensitive. And while they still have a "click" feature, its much more practical to change the settings to receive tap and touch instructions. B@!!, you can enable right click on the trackpad through System Preferences so that anytime you tap with 2 fingers it is "right click".
B@!! your VMs won't run games at any real playable levels. If you want to test out games use Bootcamp, or you can run steam games through Codeweavers CrossOver (Wine Libraries). I get between 60 - 120 FPS in CS:S and TF2 depending on the map using CrossOver.
PS. I love Macs. Latro - did you see how Apple changed this new trackpad so that the very bottom right hand corner is a right click? It does make a mouse unneccessary - but I use my little Razer mouse by preference. As far as all of the funky Mac finger moves to do things, meh (I save 'em for tha ladies). I used Bootcamp on my MBP and have a bunch of clients using it and I think it has some issues. I've seen a bunch of those partitions permanently blow up while the actual drive and Mac partitions are totally fine. It works, but the failure rate is real. So I'm moving clients that want to run Windows apps on Mac hardware to Terminal Services. Damn it is one well built, sessy piece of hardware tho.  |
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 05:42:44 AM » |
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ummm well never gonna get a mac laptop if they don't have FireWire. Any recording device worth beans uses it becuase of the much lower latency for the devices
The Macbook Pro's still have Firewire.. And if you were doing audio editing for optimal results... wouldn't you want to use the Professional level notebook? |
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 09:32:44 AM » |
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2008, 10:42:59 PM » |
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i had the last revision with the 8600m gt, and it runs dead space really well (an example of a modern game.)
If you get a mac, go for the pro with the 9600gt, u won't regret it.
9400 will kickass but do read about it first, it's not a discrete (like a desktop 9500gt/9400gt.) It's actually an IGP.
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